PVP weapons

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  1. Offspring

    Offspring Active Member

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    Can any of admins confirm if pvp weapons (bone blade, etc) drop in raklion or they are boss only?
     
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    Events/bosses only because there are no 380 exc items here
     
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    So, you can't find non-excellent 380 weapon on LaCleon, such as Phoenix soul star, boneblade, etc.? I made a research and i found this.
    Source: Guiamuonline
    https://postimg.org/image/oh17q6ry9/
     
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    Guiamuonline is a reference website for the official server not for private servers or this server. We disabled 380 items drop from normal monsters drop because these items cannot drop as non-exc and exc and it would make the events/bosses/misc that provide them as a reward useless in this case. Normal monster drop is hard to be controlled so everyone would get them in matter of minutes. Imperial is a good source for 380 high end items and there is no cooldown to it.
     
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    Well, I feel disappointed right now. I put all these efforts/investments to make 5 characters just to hunt in LaCleon to get 380 weapon and yet ...
    -Sadlife
     
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    People go to lacleon to hunt for socketed items mainly rather than 380 since they are way better. A server that has 380 exc items won't care if non-exc ones drop from regular monsters but most who provide same settings as us normally place these items in events/bosses/chaoscards and so on. You don't consider the actual events enough for obtaining plenty of 380 items?
     
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    No socket weapon is better than 380, even if 380 is non exc. If it only drops from bosses, in that case 380 is somewhat meh and excellent weapons replace 380 :) From exc you get more raw damage not to mention the exc options and yet you can use harmony on it for that sd bypass ;P
     
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    Definetly, an exc weapon could replace a 380 non-exc weapon in certain cases but that depends (yellow works on both), however a 380 weapon is not a high end item like it used to be in old seasons.

    We initially thinked on having 380 +1 exc option items from the start but decided to go with non-exc ones because for some reason non-reset server players consider exc 380 items overpowered (obviously they are not but most got used to the old seasons where 380 was the best item in-game), however this left us room for possible future changes as an upgrade from non-exc to exc items is more appropiate than a downgrade from exc to non-exc since it cannot cause any damage in case of a revert.
     
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    I'll try to explain why excellent can be better, it's simple, because it simply offers more base damage (Bow itself +2% +lvl20 options) + combine with Infinity arrow strengthener which isn't working too bad, more base damage = great increase of damage for skills such as Ice Arrow. And pink option gives 200 pvp damage to final damage which can also be ruined by 380 pants with pink opt because it offers 200 pvp defense, not to mention that 380 weap has lower damage, except for PSS ;P
     
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    I don't really comprehend why you guys allowed high tier exc items in BOK+5 and not 380 weapon in a normal mobs. In fact, BOK+5 are easy to find. Additionally, you could probably get 15 pieces per day and have a chance to get 2 options of high tier weapon that can outmatched 380 weapons.
     
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    Because everyone expects those items to drop from bok+5 as they always did (we used to have items up to dark phoenix but everyone who plays the new seasons still expects the drop of old seasons, if we would have kept the same setting you would be asking now why they don't drop so there isn't a middle way) and if you get more exc pieces a day you will look for +luck items and good exc options and throw away the bad ones while a 380 item is a keeper in most cases because you don't have to choose an exc option since there is none. As long as 380 are non-exc then adding them in a normal monster drop will make the end bosses rewards useless because there are no items left to be added in events like kundun, nightmare, balgass, imperial and everyone will simply afk a small ammount of time in lacleon to obtain them.

    @sarkazmas, that is totally correct, it's the players that shout overpowered when seeing an 380 excellent item in a non-reset server, even though it isn't because as you said, the pink option applies to final damage not base damage. As I said, me and @Gix thinked a lot on having 380 items + 1 exc option from the begining but we decided it's better to start as default (non-excellent) and launch a poll later on, this way it will be the players choice.
     
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