HP pots

i was thinking about remove hp pots from shop.
Why?
hp pots give more advantage to BKs cos they have bigger hp and can heal them self agains other chars .
2nd of all ppl wont have to buy them for pk all the time store them in inventory just for sure...pvp ser. And when they get out of them get more weaker to others who still have them.
Also it ll make more rare and usefull to use hprec rings,wings.
Also i think it ll make pvp more pure and maybe even more fun , without pushing qqqqq ^^

Or not remove them all just put in shop small hp pots which ll be useful for only low rr players and new players which are the players who really need them.

Its just my opinion...

 

SM soul barrier would put others at a large disadvantage with no hp pots.

 

i dont see how mg have also soul barrier and bk have extra hp...
i have maxed SM and i dueled max BK and lose 0-10 cos he could heal his bigger hp...
SM-MG duel is fine we pked a little yesterday and it was even...
and u might not even maxed.

 

I've beaten maxed bk and I'm not max. It is not easy and I agree with 120k hp healing 40% hp per pot is a pain to deal with. But even with our battle I was hitting you 4k with excellent hits and your normal hit was 10k on me. without hp pots even with my SD bypass I wouldn't be able to survive. Also keep in mind the MG soul barrier doesn't benefit from Agility. Honestly to fix bk the 3400% skill damage needs to be lowered. The only strategy I have right now to beat a bk as an mg is to use ice retreat and use aqua beam, and if they are still getting too close use lightning. These are weak skills but you need to improvise and avoid being combo'd to live.

 

StrMG much better pvp
EneMG have ES better pvm
But i made this thread about pots.
i would like someone else opinion also, many ppl read but kinda noone have anything to say...

 

What does this have to do with anything? Either you didn't read what I said or you don't speak english well. And StrMG is bad for pvp, go ahead and try to use twisting slash or fireslash on a bk.:diablo:

 

bump
btw Castle Siege no fun for all nonBK/DL chars, with dd set yellow DD opt and hp pots chars with low dmg...MG,SM,Elf cant kill ,BK sometimes even each other only cos of HP pots.
SM/MG/Elf almost same dmg all
Before u answear me its my own fault , i just add one fact :When i tested it SM vs BK,
BK was just standing there and lughting time to time pressed Q...
i was useing Platina exc+13+L
2 anubis items for Double dmg
Wings lv2+11+L
If i can get lv3 wings+13 to add dmg, others can get also +13 wings with more absorb
So it dont have anything to do with my lame items or his damn good set.When there is yellow dd 7% all chars hit like a babys doesnt matter if u have maxed weps,wings.

And pvp is most important think when u get maxed and when ppl realize they come to CS only to put buff on DLs/BKs or Soul Barrier they wont even want go there...
Im not asking to change skill dmg or add dmg to Elf,Mg,SM.

If anyone think no hp pots will affect nonCS servers like arena...it ll but not that much.
If someone own u a lot and u ll just hit him a little he ll eventually die.
If BK fans think they lose adventage in pvp they wont!
HP pots its advantage to all on nonCS ser. If someone think SM can teleport and heal him self ...u can also when he is useing tele that instant.
Game ll start to be really about best gear and skills in pvp!

I would be grateful of any answear , especially from players.
Or other points of view.

 

i was thinking about this ...no hp pots all day
And i find out without them it ll give a little advantage for Elves cos they can heal them self or others with maxed ene...
but also i think this ll finally make elves more wanted to play them, all those years elves on max stats 32k/65k suck in pvp, and hardest char to lvlup...

another + if im right and im sure this might work ...ppl ll play more for nonBK chars
which ll help market also...now many ppl play BKs so bk items most wanted and its not good for market. I have np sell BK items almost any opt... but sell elf/Mg items is really hard, also u can see it in wings...Elf , MG wings are like 3-6 jwls ,but BK u can sell for +6jwls

one friend told me he never saw no hp pots on any ser, me2 but few years ago i played on one ser which i wont name, low exp ser max stats 32k small comunity everyone knows everyone like 80-140 players online and in pvp we didnt use pots it makes pvp more fun and more ballanced, u could buy pots and use but noone did
from respect to others and more !FUN!.
and fun is main point of all games...
if u remove pots from npc u could make them drop from idk box of luck...rare bougle dragon hard to find, i think i found just 1 max on invasion but not every invasion.

 

well this is no crazy idea , because i remember tested pvp in beta serve without pots and saw a good ballanced.

 

so noone have anything to say about this?
All maxed elf,mg,sm players ok geting owned by BKs,DLs?
I know there not that much maxed players yet.
But there ll be and when u all find out u lose 10-0 to bk/dl what u gona do then make BK or DL for pvp?
i dueled with my sm to bks with pots and i lose and lose...
but when we didnt use pots i lose just 10-3/5, and that was just my lame skills in pvp and crapy dmg items.

 

I believe that every class has its own advantages and disadvantages but Mu is more "friendly" for bk and we must admit it! Also I do believe that SM is better from BK on pvp even if the second use potions but as we said it is also matter of players skills too (I have seen some duels on past that is why I say so). I don't know if by removing potions will have a better balance or a mess... :confused1:

 

yes mess thats what im looking for , all nonBK chars are based on range dmg and they also share -+ low dmg compare to bk. So the only tactics is slowly kill bk or each other from distance. But u need lot more time to kill someone...why that someone dont use q and q and q and what happen? His hp is more raising then going down.
I dont have anything more to add to this thread anymore, its just simple math of dmg/def/hp/and pots.

 

I think that the sm is very disadvantaged here ... mg has mana shield bk has way to much hp dl huge damage elf buffs etc , and what does sm have? teleport and "mana shild" that doesn't even work correctly it says : 809% damage absorb =))) that's a joke , it doesn't even absorb 10 % of damage it's a useless skill vs players . Normally a mana shield can't be broken by anything except pentration from elf ... but then again this server is totally unbalanced so ...

 

as enm4nuel wrote here pvp have nice balanc , he even told me how duels finished between all chars , but it was tested without hp pots.
So it isnt about BKs hp or mana shield , or skill dmg .

 

i would like final answear from admin on this, i know you have tons of work with other stuff around , but im just asking for answear...not any instant work now or in close future.
Its just sad that all ya work in pvp ballancing is in trash cos of pots.

 

well sephiro with all respect im maxed and i dueled all chars maxed , with hp pots im imortal to all except BK,DL.
Also mg,elf,sm with max stats are immortal to each other with pots.
They just dont have enought big dmg to break healing from pots.
If u dont believe me come ingame or some GM might test it with/without me.
Thx to pots i lost interest of CS at all.
Yes DLs and BKs will no longer be immortal but still ll rule in pvp.

I dont have any reason to lie about it. HP pots are really powerfull.
I would not bump this thread if im 100% sure about it.

 

I hope one day when more ppl get maxed , and GMs ll have more time to check pvp with/out pots ll find out what i allready pointed out here, till then GL with server.
I pointed out allready everything here, and get my answer from admin for which im thankfull.

Im playing Mu 2 long to get excited about anything except pvp/CM.
Everythink what u do in Mu u do for pvp...lvlup/items/quests/CM/GR/Guilds/CS/Events.
So no point for me to stick around anymore.

 

Well this is a little old now, but I think it would be fair to just have small hp pots. This way new players can still outheal the small damage mobs do while they are leveling. It also allows players to recover after taking some damage in castle siege while the next wave comes back. It also would spark a lot more elves since they have the healing skill. On a side note I think it would be good to remove the antidote item, that way poison and ice have actual effect. Not all players know that antidote removes ice effects but the ones that do are usually BK's anyway.