Grand Reset

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  1. jimini

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    well 3opt is same like FO items dsr,zen,mana useless in pvp.
    Im ok with 3opt items...but question is what ll be the price of them...
    now set items 1045 credits on+11+2opt+L
    wep items 1545 credits on+11+2opt+L

    3opt+11+L might cost 300/700 credits more
     
  2. Scudhawk

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    3 options might help some of the other characters fight bk's. Since most bk's only need DD+REF as their hp caps at 120k regardless.
     
  3. Flamehaze

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    i do like the 3 optn idea, but i also think that a decrease of points per hour online would be beneficial, that way getting points from grand reset would be more appealing than simply leaving your character online 24/7
     
  4. Gix

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    we're talking about grand reset for now. And we are talking about making the items +11+ 3 opt (hmm we might take off the luck from items but i don't think is such a good idea ) , and increase a bit the gr credits reward

    Or leave them as they are now and just increase the gr credits reward


    PS: good point scudhawk
     
  5. Gix

    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    so we're still waiting for suggestions here
     
  6. saxobeat

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    If Grand Reset can help players to make wings lvl 3 is just perfect, i know many people who lost lots jwels and only failed.
    Items with 3 options no way , that can`t help other character fight with bk , bk need hp too and with lk dd ref hp and yellow dd bk is invincible for other characters.More balance pvp only if all sets can be +10 or 11 max ( i think so:D)

    Or forget that and just add more points for Grand reset:peace:

    ---------- Post added at 08:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 PM ----------

    If Grand Reset can help players to make wings lvl 3 is just perfect, i know many people who lost lots jwels and only failed.
    Items with 3 options no way , that can`t help other character fight with bk , bk need hp too and with lk dd ref hp and yellow dd bk is invincible for other characters.More balance pvp only if all sets can be +10 or 11 max ( i think so:D)

    Or forget that and just add more points for Grand reset:peace:
     
  7. morikoth

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    IMO if you made items +11+lk+3 opt is useless. Why? because you work a lot to make a GR and you have a very big chance to lose what you bought on chaos machine. So if you make 1 GR = 1 best set item +13+lk+3 opt is good (1GR=wings lvl3+13+lk+3opt; 1GR=1 best weapon+13+lk+3opt; 1GR=Armor-Helm-Boots-Pants-Gloves best items +13+lk+3opt; 1GR=pendats+rings+3opt;)so to have a full set you need like 5 GR=around 6 months of playing - so is enough...if you go for items+13+lk+2 opt then you should incresea the nr of credits get by 1 GR-with 1 GR i can get 2 items like that. i dont know if is just bad luck but i lost like 6 items from 10 on chaos machine (items+lk and 5 bc talismans=80% chance) and i lost my helm bought from website in the same mode (because of that i said is not a good idea to let the items +11)-you should change the price for items on website (is not fair a bok+5 item price = a bok+1 item)-you should let all players on the new maps(we play here s3 but i cant go in s3 maps and DL cant have summon-thats suck a lot on CS) so you should think on other advantage for VIP. BC reward should be something else or better talismans cause a lot of ppl dont go in bc because of the reward . Thats is only one part of what i am thinking that need to be change. Thx
     
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  8. DeathClaw

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    I think that with GR you should be able to buy wings lvl 3 (although they are not on website right now) with lk+11(+13 if you decide to change that on the site) and 1 option (which i think is more than enough considering how hard it is to make wings lvl 3).
    You don't have to increase number of credits but at least make them worth something (for example on another server i won't give any names etc for GR you get 1500 credits with witch you can buy wings lvl 3 +15 +3 options +lk +add ) My point is that it doesn't matter how many credits it maters what you can do with it. But if you leave the current nr of credit and can't even make items +13 on webshop people won't GR as you can see. My sugestions : +13 items on web shop (if you work like a dog at least you may as well get rewarded for that if you buy +11 item and you wanna make them +13 ingame and fails you wanna trough pc out the window) wings lvl 3 on web shop and the nr of credits to be no more no less than you could buy wings lvl 3 +lk+13+1 option.
     
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  9. Gix

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    Since the points will be increased would be pure stupidity to let items +13. There should be a chance you work for right?

    Also wings lvl3 + 3 opts is too much as well. Condor feather inside the shop should be more than enough and was a good suggestion made by a player.

    morikoth. everyone can choose the set how he wants so that's why all items got the same ammount of credits doesn't matter if they are bok+1 or +5. Some ppl think on their look. Also this game is about having fun and pleasure and these can be found in loosing and finding/succeeding high lvl items. There is no fun if each and every item turns to +13 successfully or you get it from gr as maxed

    Also bc has already increased exp and seal as reward can't be done since it will be an item and not a buff in order to work. Talismans are something worthy and thats how ppl made +13 items.


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    So condor feather will be added inside the store.

    Now the question ... how much should be rise the GR credits number ?

    And should items be +3 options +11 ?

    Remember since the credits will be higher you can afford to try and lvl up the webshop items up to +13 so even if you will loose them you will have enough credits and everytime you grand reset there is a good chance of getting to +13. Also by leaving afk you may easily get to 1 gr / month and more
     
  10. morikoth

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    one example DK items vs RD items (i love bk in RD) the def for DK is far better then RD so 1 BK with full DK set vs 1 BK vs full RD set easy to see who win. More, the rate to make them +13 is the same for both so i was thinking on that, ok...DK is far better but i live RD more, to be fair the price for DK should be far bigger then RD - harder to make them +13 eassyer for RD.
    About +11 vs +13...i am pro +13 because of that:
    lets say you rise the web credits so i can buy 3 items +11+2 opt(or 3) per GR. I want to make them +13 but i am unluck and all fail -> 1 GR for nothing.
    so imo is better to buy only 1 item +13+2opt (or 3) per GR.
     
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  11. saxobeat

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    Items with 2 options is ok...3 too much,and Condor feather in web shop ...excelent.As morikoth said after GR if a player buy 3 items+11+2 opt.. and failed(because there is hard part +12,+13) will throw his computer out the window and forget that is just a game.


    P.S In game are 100-200 players online, i like to see more suggestions
     
  12. Scudhawk

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    I think it's fair all items are same price, as mentioned before I also go for looks over efficiency. When your defense is 6k-9k already it doesn't make a difference of 100-200 def. So it's better to pick what you like as apposed to taking 25-150 less damage per hit.

    On the note of making things +13. My character had a lot of success making my items +13, but it's not guaranteed. Again the defense increase isn't much of a big deal, everyone wants the item aura (Wings are the exception). So I suggest you allow sets to be made +13( increase the credit cost of 11/12/13 by a decent amount) but cap wings and weapons at +9/10.

    On a last note for 3 options, make Luck count as an option, and limit wings to 2 options.
     
  13. Rad

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    why loosing all the resets with GR?
    have u thought about loosing many resets but not all of them? like keeping 10-15 resets...and the price should be +13+L+2opt ancient/excelent item.
     
  14. Scudhawk

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    You don't lose all of them if you have over 80. Your stats reset still though I believe. Ancient sets +Luck in the shop really down plays Castle Siege.
     
  15. Rad

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    didnt get that i thought that max rr is 80. btw farming ancients only by wining the castle siege gives a huge dissavantage to players from smaller guilds.
     
  16. Scudhawk

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    Carnage / Chaos castle / Kalima Boss all have chances for Ancient as well.
     
  17. Flamehaze

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    well since carnage is vip only, and basically only the largest guilds have acces to land of trials, what would the pros/cons of adding the kalima6 ticket to the points shop?
     
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    Good point, i have most ancients from Chaos Castel.. even i hunt LOT
     
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    so whats the chance that an ancient item will drop? because im 2 hours on LOT and not even one ancient droped,also in chaos castle all i got for prize was creation 7 times in a row
     
  20. saxobeat

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    I know players who find 15 acc in 2 days..and of course he sleep eat..not only play, so drop rate is ok.In chaos castel to have more chance to get ancient items go CC 5 or CC 6.


    Ok thats about grand reset prize... so let`s go back to subject:smile:
     
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