Heaven or hell -- EDIT: Thread Updated by SephiroTH 09 Jun 2:00 AM

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  1. Aaape

    Aaape Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree with these two opinions. Played LL as well :glare:
     
  2. Avalon

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    I surely do not hope the server will get wiped. It will ruin the concept Seph was trying to make: A good, stable and reliable server that goes on for ever- which means no wipes - which means players will trust the server and hopefully stay.
     
  3. Karabitaz

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    i agree with you even though , i havent played here. all i want is bigger rates and more people. and as i know alot of exe items drops here? why not decrease exe item drop rate for examaple
    Bok+1 60% exc item , 20%zen , 20% non exc item
    Bok+2 50% exc item , 25%zen , 25% non exc item
    Bok+3 40% exc item , 30%zen , 30% non exc item
    Bok+4 30% exc item , 35%zen , 35% non exc item
    Bok+5 20% exc item , 40%zen , 40% non exc item

    what do you guys think aboout that? this would make exe items more rare.
     
  4. Avalon

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    As you say, you haven't played here. Try hunting and you will realize that the exc drops is even lower than that. The only reason it seems flooded is because its about 5-6 people who hunt it all during the 4-5 months the server has been online! So the rates you are suggesting is going to increase it. But by all means, I do not dissagree with you! I hate hunting 15 BOK and getting just zen!
     
  5. Mizrael

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    beg your pardon, but how do you know?! You obviously dont...
    The only source of exc items here is the golden invasion which is 2x a day. Now let me do the math for you: If you kill all bosses(ignoring BOK+1,2) you can end up with 10x+1,2,3 from 2 dragons;3x+3 from tantalos,golem,crust;1x+4 from satyros and 5x+4/5 from great dragon(if he doesnt spawn in raklion...noone LVL 400 yet). So that makes maximum 19 BOKs. You might me right...the overflood comes from BOK+1 and +2=useless items mostly for NPC or HRS. The only thing worth picking from +3 for me is black rose+L and i get about 1/month if im lucky!!!(that includes all players giving/selling it to me since im the only summoner here).Rest of BOK+3 items are not really usefull to anyone. As we get to BOK+4 and +5 the story is different...the rates are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO low that out of possible 12 BOKs a day you get 1 item/week...again if you are lucky. And there is nothing more frustrating than spending 20-40 minutes 2x a day killing GD (he is tough...only 4-5 chars on server can actually stand its 1K dmg) and then droping 40K,40K,40K,50K,50K...

    So please lets leave out wiping and lowering BOK rates(in your case increasingo-lowering). Rest of your suggestions were quite close to mine and i fully agree with them. GL
     
  6. Karabitaz

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    well i just read it few pages above in this thread that exc items was owerflooded. but as you explained how it is i think drop is ok. what about jewel drops here? my fiend played here last month he said he didnt even saw a person with +9 or so set. and he reached like 150lvl.
     
  7. Mizrael

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    Heh. and where was he? camping in elbeland? ^^
    +9 sets and above are easily obtainable through hearts,medales,firecrackers. And if you want jewels you can go to CC or they ocassionally drop from box of heaven or mobs themselves. For example my summoner has 4 parts Exc Black Rose+13+L and armor+11, staff+11,book+13 and lots of spare +11-+13 black rose items(but then again i do about 4 CCs a day). Plus you can buy a box for every 30h online which drops Bless,Soul or chaos. So i wouldnt say there is a real shortage of jewels. Who cares-has. Important is that you dont sit nonstop afk because jewels wont keep appearing in your inventory...


    So...on topic. SephiroTH, i think you got now opinions of all the players (even nonplayers). The only one left is bandzior who has been M.I.A. for the last 5 days and he rarely visits the forum. Any conclusions?
     
  8. Karabitaz

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    seems like forum is also dead , just like server :>
     
  9. Mizrael

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    Yeah...I just got from work, 7 hours after invasion and to my surprise all goldens still intact. There used to be PK was about goldens and they were all dead...now its just me and Kratos left+some ocassional "2 day noobs" who find out "master no give items,master no give pt" and they are gone. Yesterday another good player left the server with words "i go look for another server". :(
    Everyone has given up hopes on this server and those who still try to keep it alive get abused by GM for reporting bugs and complayning about lags...you can ban me for my honesty again SephiroTH and best would be if you would just close the server down and end this torment for good...
     
  10. Gix

    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    i just wondered when your next useless comment would be posted and here it is.
    "GM abuse because you complained about lags" - good luck on finding a server that never had any lag or whatever because you start crying about that like its always been there. You expect me to treat you like what, when your thread contained words such as "reaaaaallllyy angryyyyy"? because if you start expresing yourself like being total aigtated in a forum then we got a serious problem, especially since rollbacks and such happen only if you forcely close things on your side and as long as the server doesn't crash there won't be any rollback or so for 5 minutes like you mentioned Instead of closing down you can leave anytime you want.
    This time i won't ruin and sacrifice myself for a game, i've did it enough till now and most of you got no idea about that but this time i'm not adding this as a priority, like it or not. I said i'll take care exactly when i will be able to do it, not sooner not later.

    Also, i was not going to update the server with an instable version just to make things worse d'oh. It was all about posting in forums, spending your precious time to visit rz and that polish forum i've told.

    And i wouldn't be surprised if i were you because your GMT isn't global lmao so while you are at work, some ppl are sleeping.

    PS: You should learn the sense of this word "abuse" and probably you should start changing your attitude because it kinda sucks. Check that yourself before making any accusations because i am gonna ban you each and every time i'm gonna childish act in your words.

    Now, for example you just made a spam post here so you get warned.

    Same for you Karabitaz , you got a warn too. As long as someone gave his opinion on what i've asked he should stop posting here. As long as a server will be running forum will be visited by a maximum of 20% ppl. Only if it goes offline ppl will start panic and visit the forum ... just about being too lazy to visit it everyday

    Also, you already told you don't like the 3x exp rate but you followed blizzardmu for quite some time. Don't expect to get 10-20x exp because it won't happen. Not as long as this is a no-rr server

    Even from the very begining, the players support was kinda 0 so think about (not from all but most of them). The only supportive words and such came few weeks ago not from the very begining.


    Stick to the thread subject. If you posted your opinion already then i don't need to see another post. If you really want to post, you got spam section, general discussions, etc

    Wait for the update to happen, thing which won't bring any good if you ppl won't start listening to my advice

    I've announced you that this week the update will be applied 100%, you can wait for that, or not. it's everyone's decision. The server will be here no matter what you choose I'm sacrificing my personal problems just to get more time to do that and most of the server owners would never do that especially since i did that in the past as well for testing even some versions that were almost perfect excepting 1-2 bugs which sadly were critical. JPN protocols are hard stuff even if they are the best
     
  11. Kratos

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    so how is the work on the update going? need some testers?
     
  12. Gix

    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    found already, they should get online in few hours since the GMT is different
     
  13. Gix

    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    ok .... so my decisions

    1. WW every 4hours, golden dragon invasion should remain the same = 12h but all boks success rates drop will be increased by +20%

    2. no gap level

    3. normal exp in party

    4. bc will give you the chance to get pack of jewels souls/blesses

    5. the higher the CC, the better ancient items drop

    6. no idea of illusion prize...waiting for your opinion here

    7. I would say bc should have +1x exp bonus and ds +2exp bonus, also ingredients drop will be increased

    8. golden archer remains the same since rena drop was increased already

    9. we'll stick to 3x. There are servers with 10x and resets ... it's all about time, support and advertising. I will buy premium account on xtremetop for 1 year and votes will be maded everyday by our programmer. We'll stick to same method that everyone use ...

    10. I would say +2x exp is enough if both married ppl are online. Yea...there is the idea of playing with multiple accounts just to get that but this is still a good way because it will attract more elfs and for sure there will be more ppl that will search to get married with another real person and not with a secondary account

    11. JOL success rates will be modified

    12. Probably none will be modified but i'll still check it again. Oh...events mix success rates will be increased probably by +10% or more


    So what do you think?

    PS: We'll start recruiting admins so hopefully there will be some requests and again ... hopefully there won't be jerks among us to use the admin for it;s own interest
     
  14. Mizrael

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    sounds good to me...
    illusion temple can remain unchanged since noone ever plays it yet. maybe if you get a bigger comunity who will request it, but personally i think that event is quite useless when you have invasion and CC.


    Edit: and when will that be updated?
     
  15. Gix

    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    so we'll disable it then until the competition will increase


    PS: just came back from RZ blizzardmu thread since i haven't visited for some time and wanna say james did a great job by posting there and giving good feedback. As soon as the update goes live i ll advice everyone to do that, it will boost us a lot


    LE: I wanna know what all of you think about a reset stats module ?
     
  16. Karabitaz

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    why the xp for married people?... just make 5x for everyone... none of my friends play muonline , and i'm not planning to play more than 1-2 hours a day, and im not able to run 2 clients, what should i do now ? just level up with lower xp when evryone else got higher?
     
  17. Mizrael

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    i was always pro reset stats. Especially since the LVLing is so slow it is a pain to start again if you make a mistake in the build or wanna try an alternative when you get stuck at some point and cant progress further in hunting higher mobs. Unfair towards people who worked hard on ASMs and EBKs but there are not that many of those.
     
  18. Kratos

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    i made a suggestion about this before...and was shot down by avalon and a few others...

    but i am up for a reset stats module
     
  19. Gix

    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    Opinions about Karabitaz post?

    PS: Karabitaz , you don't need to have friends playing MU since you can make new friends inside the game
     
  20. Kratos

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    it could be seen like he said...or like you said it would bring more elves (ae or ee or some other weird build) and even if it is 1 account and 2 players it will look more populated and people would want to join ... which will increase chances of getting people to stay here...so i would say stick with marriage bonus...

    will the marriage commands work with update also?
     
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