It just proves your gullabitlity and that you are the weaker link in this whole situation , and to agree with sephiroth for once , when someone makes you mad stick around to prove that you are better than their words/actions . Regarding your amazing love for science and my lack of knowledge when it comes to the subject. This is what the dictionary defines your branch of studies. Noun 1. biomedical science - the application of the principles of the natural sciences to medicine bioscience, life science - any of the branches of natural science dealing with the structure and behavior of living organisms. I am sorry to let you know , just like "creationism" is a hide-out for God , also this honours biomedical science is a hippie version of medicine. And no one would allow , i repeat on an operation table no one would buy the natural science version, since it bases itself on processes that take place inside the plant organisms. For example achillea millefolium was used as a natural anti-septic back in the 1940 , notice the year , now a days we have real medicine to stop bleedings that use chemical substances. This alternative medicine-biomedical science is for those who do not have what it takes to do medicine school( not everyone is made to dedicate their life to saving others - for that respect to all doctors). So i am very sorry to let you know that your studies are in no way related to real medicine, i would go so far to say this a new branch of homeopathy. Enjoy finding a job in a century in which cancer will be cured not by some plant cells extract or algae- but by some die hard substances . You offended me by stating i do not know my science since i am number 1 on my branch , which is agricultural and that has to do with studies of the natural bio processes that take place within the cell to be able to keep creating new hybrids because we need a lot more food on this planet as you probably know , but we do not go to the extent of saying that what we study can be applied in human medicine. So my dear friend after searching what you are studying i feel even more compassion noticing you are the weak link in the food chain (your fight with terra)and you are studying a form of hippie medicine( no offence since hippies are ok people). I truly wish you all the best in life . May you enjoy your game time , probably peak period of your life in happiness.
Biomedical science is my undergraduate degree and i plan on attending medical school after it(can't go to medical school straight after high school in Canada, more education is required). Biomedical science is like a hybrid of biology, chemistry, and their aplications to the field of health. My program focuses on biology, chemistry, calculus, anatomy, and psychology, as well as other things like molecular biology, biochemistry and bioethics. Of course i don't expect to be performing surgery with a bachelor in science honours in biomedical science degree, in fact its illegal. This is my program http://www.uottawa.ca/academic/info/regist/calendars/programs/424_pre2006.html What can i do with my degree? - Go to medical school and get an MD - Go into research and work towards a PhD - Work in hospitals across the country. - Become a pharmacist - Become a teacher - Possibilities are essentially endless because it is a Bachelor of Science: Honours in biomedical science Which of these courses is hippie medicine? Actually i have not a single course with the topic of plants or algae. And if you knew anything about cancer research model organisms such as e. coli (bacteria) are used ALL THE TIME for studying colon cancers, and they may actually lead to the cure for certain cancers someday. Also the field of genetics uses many, many different plants as model organisms, as the genome is highly conserved between species and finsing in plants can sometimes be applied to humans. Look at how much we have learned about the human species from Mendel crossing pea plants over 200 years ago. In my course list there is nothing to do with herbal remedies or homeopathy, this is a very difficult program to get accepted into and it is looked highly upon by medical schools. Don't just google biomedical science and grab the first link and pretend it makes you an expert. I know you probably felt really good about your self after typing that big long paragraph thinking you had won the argument, but you're far from it. In my eyes you actually just made yourself look like an idiot and made me think you know even less about science than i first predicted.
Jams, why do you insist on writing stories for this forum if no on cares what you think? yeah sur you have an opinion, but no one really cares... im sorry.
First paragraph , i didn't know that about Canada , here in Romania our high schools prepare you for medicine school as long as you can pass them since of course we have XII years of school. The first VIII are the type of classes to get acquainted with words,biology,maths, and so on. In year IX - year XII we study almost all your honours biomedical program. Includes psychology , genetics , mathematics ( and i am talking about everything. ). Great response in the first 4 paragraphs. Amazing how 2 different countries have different educational structures. Hippie medicine was what the definition of your branch stated it to be , making it more demeaning to me, understand ? The research upon the Escherichia coli , will result in hard core substances that destroy the certain thing it is that they are studying upon E. coli, and will apply the result - medicine to the humans, of course . We are in the XXI century , the human genome project ended in the 23 of February 2003, thank you Mr. George Venter and team. Pissum sativum experiments proved that quality genes ( this is pretty hard to translate ) are not affected by the environment conditions and can keep a constant genotype when it comes to ( flower color, seed forms). The truth behind the diversity of genes was discovered by Nilsson-Ehle , when he made a cross between 2 types of of barley . Avenua Fatua ( NNGG-dominant genes(it was discovered after the experiment had been done) - red color x Avena Sativa (nngg- recessive genes) - white color. As normal in the first generation of hybrids he had a intermediate color between the 2 type - NnGg so red still being dominant. The 2nd generation although was supposed to have a mendelian raport of 9:3:3:1 , and resulet in a 1 : 4 : 6 : 4 :1 , in which Nilsson noticed even more color than the parenst had thus resulting in a lot more than just the mendel observations. Also in 1911 another team crossed 2 type of corn, receiving the same results like Nilsson. Point is mendel is the father of quality genes , but i consider Nilsson to be the father of unmasking the mystery that there is more information than just those principal traites of a plant(flower color, seed forms). Thanks again for clarifying what it is you really do, after reading the definition i was outrages that science would even come out of your mouth, since homeopathy is crap. "I know you probably felt really good about your self after typing that big long paragraph thinking you had won the argument, but you're far from it. In my eyes you actually just made yourself look like an idiot and made me think you know even less about science than i first predicted." This is not a competition between me and you since making you understand in your argument you are the weakest link would take a long time since your pride knocks over ration. My natural selection does apply in this case , but it is to much to discuss about. I wouldn't go to that extent of calling me an idiot , when my scholarship talks for my scientific knowledge. But let's leave the real life out of it, since here we can say that what we want. Point is natural selection theory may be applied upon your cry baby thread, and maybe reason will make you understand. Good luck with your school, study that genetics it is amazing. And to wasabi , god forbid your education , and off thread posts . ( you are probably a astronaut , or fireman, - you can be what you want wasabi - comprend vous ? )
I find it very hard to believe that at the age of 14 you are learning psychology, calculus, and genetics at the same level i am. Of course when i was that age you learn about basic concepts, but in grade 9 i would not learn how to create cDNA libraries from a single bacterial plasmid using polymerase chain reactions (PCR), DNA splicing, markers to track the location of genes, mapping a genome, bioinformatics at the NCBI database, etc. Give me a piece of dna and the, some rna polymerase, and a solution containing excess base pairs (with small proportion of them being deoxidized) and ill sequence the damn thing for you if you want (using electrophorisis of course). Considering Canada has one of the best education systems in the world i doubt that you learn at the age of 13-14 what i learn at the age of 19-20. Your paragraph about mendel and Nilsson. Mendal was actually very fortunate to get the results he did. He was lucky enough to study two genes that follow the rules of independant assortment and segregation, which of course were the famous pea texture (round vs wrinkled), and colour (green vs yellow). Had he picked phenotypes that had been on the same chromosome, or involved in epistasis, codominance, incomplete dominance, or were on the sex chromosomes he would have gotten results that were far from the 9:3:3:1 or 3:1 ratios he discovered, and probably wouldn't have been able to conclude anything useful with the knowledge he had avaliable to him. And im not quite sure what you mean by hard core substances... Many current drugs approved for the treatment of cancer come from plants, for example vinblastine(i was involved in databasing information for a study using this drug in low doses over long periods of time 2 years ago, it is very effective stuff), Taxol / Paclitaxel, Topotecan, Teniposide, and Vincristine (used for luekemia). Other plants based drugs include morphine, L-Dopa, Convallatoxin, Rhomitoxin, a-Tetrahydrocannabinol(THC ), etc. Without researching being done on plants millions more people would die every year. And nowhere in my previous comment did i call u an idiot... By the way natural selection implies there is some sort of increased/decreased rate of fitness (survival), i highly doubt that because the knowledge of a couple of dragons got out in a game of MU that my fitness level will be decreased...
A pleasure crusadius ^_^ . I enjoyed you comment regarding mendel research, and yes indeed you are right regarding ratios , he was very lucky. I thought you might get onto that , regarding plants ^_^ . Of course we extract substances from plants(hard core ones ^_^) , since every type of chemical substance is located in soil,atmospehere and whatever other places. And the only organisms that get these substances are the plants ^^. I was trying to attack the fact that we don't just throw achillea millefolium now a days on our legs ^_^ like they did in WW II as a natural anti-septic, althought to be honest if i get shot on the battle field , i'm sleeping with that ^^ . And we were studying all the things i mentioned , sad to say i cannot compare educational system between these 2 countries so no point in continuing proving - "i am better than you" ^^ cannot be proven. All i can say is , i was born in Australia , studied a couple of years , there , and may god forbid Australias educational program. When i came to Europe-Romania they have some amazing schools , full of knowledge , i integrated myself rather well since i have done around 9 years of studies , studying natural sciences , and now am currently studying at "Universitatea de Stiinte Agricole si Medicina Veterinara a Banatului - Timisoara" . Please visit http://www.usab-tm.ro/?L=1 and check out our campus , enjoy the Romanian experience ^_^. Come and visit us sometimes, the website doesn't get updated that often but its the experience that counts. Let's end this argument , you have gained my respect for being able to have a coherent conversation when it comes to the scientific life. Congratulations , hopefully you did not take these things from google , but i trust you on that .
OMG! Stop writing shit that I don't understand and try to look smart! The fight is over, Crus is back to try to kick our butt, even though he didn't dare to show up at CS, so STOP THIS!
Me and james stopped the fight about 6 posts ago, we we're just having a nice conversation in the spam zone, which is kind of what its for. We're not trying to look smart, we're having an intelligent conversation about genetics and the difference in north american vs european educational systems. p.s. SPAM
Always a pleasure ^_^. It's all cool now, crus don't leave again ^_^. I need to talk to someone about genetics. Lol
