Stun From Mace!

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  1. noiwk1991

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    Guys ! i've been playing now for some time. and i ran into some Maces users bks from hell.
    and i find teh mace style unplayable aginst.
    not about being op or not fair just being annoying and pissing off.
    with the crazy attack speed we have on full bk and ts stun just apply 100% of the time and thats soooooooooo annoying
    and pissing me off... so i call for you all to vote aginst removing stun from game !
    so hell will quit the game finally.
    i now so annoyed by the mace style and stuns i dont really care to be banned for my actions and for being cheeky
    i call for a raiot to remove the stun effect from maces! whoever agree with that post here!
     
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    Noy, first of all i understand your frustration, mace is indeed broken, but its not so right to post something like the above. I agree that mace has to change, but not for an alliance to stop playing, that doesnt sound right, its just for balance reasons.

    Ive noticed that mace stun works either when the user HITS or GETS HIT by someone else, and the chances are indeed ridiculously high, i'd say about 75% from personal experiance. Conclusion: when a bk uses a mace, he actually fights against a constanly stunned target, its like hitting a dummy, no chances to defend yourself against it. If the opoment is also a bk using mace, well, the result is just silly, they both get stunned with the first hit and this battle actually never ends, not to mention mana shields and other buffs that might be included to the fight....

    No, i dont agree mace stun should be removed, it just has to be fixed a bit, lesser the chances, something like 10% like DL stun (dl stun is very reasonable to me) and also, make it proc only when hit OR when get hit, not both please :p
     
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    yeah they just has to balance it, im guessed it just has a chance to stun when you give ref damage. it basicly works whenever you give damage to enemy cause its 10% chance to stun.
    not on specific skill so ref damage still apply stun. and as you know when you ref damage someone the ref being returned to back and over again its a chain with high ref % .
    so enough 1 hit to get your self stunned well the result is silly even with 1 bk use mace. today i was even without buff full brave set (327k hp) and 2 guys with mace using mana shield just got me stuck for like 20 mins.
    i couldnt die but aswell i couldnt move.. you cant even image how upset i was. ..
    the chance should be very low considering bks can attack very fast with ts skill and it shouldnt work from reflect damage only from actual attacking. but right now maces are unbearable .
    he can balance it anyway he wants just as long as it is balanced in a way that you can still play and move.
    and when its not too annoying. image what happens when 2 guys or 3 using mace aginst you. ? o_O its 100% stun. so yeah there should be serious work with mace balance or if easier just remove stun.
    only hell ally are using maces anyway ^^ and its so annoying .


    Edit, well DL stun is reasonable indeed. but you forget DL dont have as much to offer as Bk. Bk dont really need the stun and the mace stun is far far far far far too much to handle.
    if mace stun will be removed i dont think anyone will cry over it nor it would make bk "under power" lets be honest here bk will still be the best pvp even without maces.
    if you want to doubt it you are welcome to try it... well no class other than bk can kill a bk :) Bk has nice party buff (HP) and amazing damage with combo and on top of that tankiest in game. sorry but stun is just not needed.
    Bk just has all in 1 :)
     
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    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    I will remember this next time I see such comment because if you act like a jerk, you will be treated like one.

    If you want a certain default skill removed, then make your own server and change it however you want. We play MU here, not another game and that stun skill is part of MU Season 6 Episode 3 and above. Call Webzen and tell them to remove it or play lower seasons.



    Correct, this is an ingame feature that was added by the game creator but you can't call "fix" something that works default, as intended right? DL stun is just DL stun, Webzen made the skills different for each character for a reason.


    Stun cames with a price and that is using a low level weapon. Most part of this game, MU was created for 1x experience rate and no-resets. This is a private server with resets and max stats so some things will be exagerated and its going always be like that unless Webzen starts making max stats servers.
     
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    Gix Innovate, Don't Imitate Founder

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    I have deleted your latest two post because you already start overeacting and act like a dumb guy. You got the wrong idea that changing everything in MU is totally doable and so easy so this is why you should make your own server and see things are different.

    Webzen didn't cared about 32k servers when they made certain skills or any part of the game so obviously lots of things are hardcoded and cannot be changed, ever. Private servers do also use emulators, so these are official servers imitation. No one is using the original files and no one has the original source so use your brain before acting like an idiot.

    We are no different than other Season6 Episode3 servers and there is no such option of making the bk stun skill value after your own needs. There is no such thing as BKStunSkillPercent option. You are dreaming way too much on how easy you think that developing is.


    Also next time you will be coming here and do a suggestion and then start getting mad because you get owned into PvP, I will ban you permanently. You just started 2 different threads with same subject and instead of being PATIENT to get an answer you started going range for no damn reason at all so this time I will just take it as you had really bad day and tried to get rid of your real life nerves, in a game but this is something I will not accept a second time.

    If you cannot state your point of view being calm and without insulting other players and trash talking then you won't be answered at all from now on.


    Now let's get back to ONTOPIC and give the answer to your raging post:

    - you are a new player and seems you are not accustomed with the new seasons, according to your previous threads where you didn't knew some ingame details available on the new seasons. You are playing this game for a reason but you are trying to change all you want for your own benefit and such type of new players like you are not liked by others.

    - what we will try to do is replicate the DL stun to BK but remember the word "try" no one said this is a 100% thing. There are no such options as setting the value of stun or master tree skills. What you see now in terms of skills is what webzen created and you are playing their game, not ours and since you are here, there is a solid reasold on why you are playing this game called MU. Stome things will always be different and annoying on max stats servers, starting with agility bugs that we all know about.
     
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    yeah thank you gix, ^^ i've tried it in game and it indeed works soo much better now. it still stun from reflect damage tho. meaning even if the bk doesnt attack just by attacking him you can still get stun. i dont know if this one is change able or not.
    but for sure the stun issue is much much better than it was before. i know i let my nervers over flow in last time. but you cant image how annoying 30 mins of stun effect can be .
    it wasnt about being op or not or losing a pvp. i actually wont by using reflect buff . but it was about how annoying it can be to be stuck and unable to play or move for over 25 mins.
    im a bk my self so nerfing stun is nerfing my class however i cant see my self using a mace ;)
    well ill just say that maybe now you see that all you needed is to find the will to fix it. cause i believe you are capable for much more than you think and claim that you are capable for. not everything is doable this is indeed true.
    but many things are still doable if you have the will :) so good work and thank you for noticing our screaming about this issue :)
    and Umm nothing about being greedy but. if you could TRY make stun active only upon attacking rather than being attacked (ref) and attacking aswell. it would be amazing and appreciated.
    cause if both sides attacking it can still be abit of unplesing issue. as the duration of stun is decently long :) but again good work and thanks !
     
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