About the PK Protection

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  1. KilluaYoukai

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    I'll keep it simple, there's too many maps with PK protection. It's one thing to have Lorencia, Noria and Devias as Non-PvP maps, but it's non-sense to have high value maps with that.

    Change the PK protection to characthers under level 220 only (so they can't be killed, and can't kill as well), or enable PK on more maps.

    I can't see why Icarus (and feather drops) are getting controlled by AFK only multi-accs, it's a Bot festival, which in many games isn't allowed at all. Anyone who can walk in Icarus can take care of themselves.

    When I played GMO (9 years ago?), you had PK protection but it was for level 9 or something like that, not for people over level 250. It's bad enough to have so many bots, but it's worse to have those controlling the market.

    Keep the PK protection to Lost Tower and Atlans, anything beyond that should be "adults area". After all, we aren't playing Plants vs Zombies.
     
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    I must say that I totally agree with this post. Icarus is the only map where all players are able to drop feathers and same spots are occupy by some chars all the time. Lower maps also should be more challanging. T1, Atlans, LostTower... on this maps players can only ks each other without possibility to fight "harder" for spots. On server where afk is allowed and very popular this is a way to "reward" active low lvl players and give them a chance for better spots.

    Regards
     
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  3. Gix

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    By default you cannot PK chars under level 6, not 9 and this is not something you can change since if it was, I would have done it long time ago.

    The actual pvp and non-pvp maps were decided by the players years ago.

    Your main interest here is to make Icarus a pvp map since I doubt you care much about the rest, but I wonder... why you don't KS those people? Gather some guild members and start KS-ing those who sit there all day long.

    I don't have any problem with making everything PvP-only either, but thats how the server was in the past and people were complaining a lot.
     
  4. KilluaYoukai

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    I don't AFK like 90% of the server does, I'm against it ... this is something pen and paper D&D teached me. If you wanna play a RPG, then Role Play it.

    So when I'm actually looking at my characther, I don't wanna see a faggot/jerk/douchebag I don't like on the same screen. It's like having a rat living on my house, it annoys me, and I wanna kill it. Quite simple huh?

    About the guilds, I say the same thing, make players have turns, and clean the opposition every 30mins all day long. But I'd guess very few people on this game actually have TeamSpeak or RaidCall. I don't think there's any decent guild in this server, a decent Guild Leader have their players to be Online on time, "let's farm 1k White Herbs to make potions for War" "Ifrit will respawn on 10 hours and 17min, we gonna need a Sorcerer to Land Protect the party" kinda of stuff.

    To be honest, I don't feel I like this game anymore. It's not the same game I liked 9 years ago, with hundreds of people in Lorencia.

    "Player slots increased" Oh nice! Can we get an actual number of Unique Active players? Because for me, it looks like people are making more Alts, I haven't seen any Support player yet. (like: EE lvl XYZ looking for Party)

    Maybe I'm just too old for this, and the good old times of RPG are dead. (Tibia without NPC Potions, Conquer before the ConquerPoints and BattlePower, Ragnarok without cash Elunium/Oridecon or Cash MvP cards)

    Yeah, level 6, not 9. Well I had 15 years, now I'm 24 sorry if I couldn't remember the exactly number. You know what? Leave the noob-friendly system as it is, after all people love to that kinda of stuff. I still need to get all achievements in Bastion. ;)

    Other solution is to make every mob on Icarus drop the feather, but guess what? Next month everything will be Bots, just like @autoloot Homunculus. I must have died, cuz I could swear Bots were a bad thing, and people would get banned for it. Official Bots ... Idk what happened to the world.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    It should be all PVP, that's how it's meant to be, PK is a part of the game :)
     
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    Disagree. PK is part of the game and the higher maps should have it. Lower maps / Maps that have farmers should stay non-pvp since KS is also a part of the game that everyone has forgotten about. They would rather just create a strong PVP character and pk their way into spots rather that KS people.

    I for one love KS and i may start having some fun with it and post some screens/videos to remind everyone how much fun it can be :)

    But there is no reason we need all maps pk since there would be players just like now...going to the maps and pking all just to ruin the afk...
     
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    that being said icarus and tarkan should still be pvp. you can ks at low level in lt7 and high lvl in swamp all ya want. if the made icarus and tarkan pvp and added loch's to the wolfs and wheels in tarkan you would start seeing more fun at lower lvls and move pvp to more than just vulcanus and kantru which is the only place people pk on now.
     
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    ^ agree with hopium
     
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    Disagree, any hunt map shouldn't be pvp, because it's to hunt not to pvp, its like taking away the chance of getting those items for newbies because any high guy will pk then to get the spot, in the other case they will get ks, but they at least got a chance since ks is about how fast you kill and how long you can stay.

    @KilluaYouka, Every moob higher than Queen Rainer drop feather, im at Alpha crust and already got 2 feathers from those.
     
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    Mu stuff is a complete mess, took me about 3 weeks to find a somewhat decent calculator. (which I'm still not happy with)

    I couldn't tell which databases are reliable or not (Item Drop de Icarus says that only Queen Rainer and Drakan drops the feather), if you have a decent database like this one: iW Database - Monster Info but for Mu instead of Rag, I'll take it. (english one please)

    On top of that, the spots fully taken in Icarus are always on the Queens/Drakans area, so I came to the conclusion the drop was only from those. Whatever, I'm tired, MuHQ Mu Online Game Fansite. GlobalMMO online gaming network. looks like the only decent source to look at, but it's not a database, it's a forum and quite dead by now.
     
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    Well, the site, you linked before, is the one im using now, and as you saw, it have his own Mu Calculator, and that's GMO Drop's maybe here somestuff are different here.
     
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    i don't understand how a high lvl character who could easily pk someone couldn't easily ks that same person. you are essentially saying no because high level characters exist.
     
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    if a high Character PK you, you dont have a chance, but if a High Character KS you, they will get bored at some point. so you still have a chance. making that map PvP, is like giving the high lvl's a place where to find alot of easy people to kill.
     
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    Im going with icarus should be pvp because of two simple reasons.
    1. This is a vital map to all because it is only place where you can get feathers and PK/noobie protection is needed for startes to have a decent place to level up which can not be vital map in game.
    2. This helps to get rid of those bots because if you kill bot you can have its spot, no problem with it coming back because owner is not probably around for most of the time. If you kill player who is looking for feathers he will come back and try to pk you so one of you will end up murder and pkd by other players. So there still will be ks because nobody wants to be red in such popular spot.
     
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    Well make it pvp then, to drop feather take around 24hrs-30hrs, i dont know how much time will take, if you're getting PKed, but sure lets try with Icarus as pvp map
     
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    ALL it's meant to be PVP... KS is a part of the game too but you can still KS... I remember KS was born because of relative high punish time for PKers, which no longer exists on private servers... So don't come and say that non-PvP is the way to allow KS because it was used at 1st place in PvP servers.
     
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    essentially you just ks'ed people into forcing them to try and pk and turn them phono. enders says you can ks high level characters because the is some factor of X=player may get bored. this is a ridiculous arguement, i have never got bored setting my character on top of a spot pressing play and walking away lol... if anything a player would more likely get bored of killing after about the 8th hour. i can ks 24/7 and never get bored lol. seems everyone is unanimous on this cept the guy with the bots in icarus :D


    also why are so many people who don't even play this server providing input like they have clue about whats going on in game? on our server..
     
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    PvP is indeed part of the game but thats why a lot of players complained in the past. There are those type of players who don't give a shit about new ones and will make them leave by PK-ing them.

    I wonder if you would keep this opinion if you would get PK-ed all day long, Offspring. I would personally gather some friends and start KS-ing like hell in Icarus. The guy who is afking there all day long will either leave or party with you :p


    Well that's your thinking, not the one of that player who PKs for reason and for fun.


    Correct


    Thats a thumb up!
     
  19. Java

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    Maybe i'll start going icarus and afk ksing people :) and bring back/show the fun of actually just ksing and not just pking with RF like half the server does...RF although strong...are not the best for ks :)

    See you all in icarus soon ;)
     
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    Most of us, are not in icarus, there's just one guy with elf's on all the spot's xD so go ahead please.
     
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